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Location: Alerts for 6/11/07
Discussion: Fingerprint scans
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 jimglab |
Fingerprint scans
Jun 11 2007, 9:56 AM EDT The Department of Homeland Security reportedly wants travelers on international flights to undergo a fingerprint scan at check-in, perhaps starting next year. Do you have any objections to having a fingerprint scanned? Do you trust security officials to use a new database of traveler fingerprints wisely? Are you worried about potential “false positives” that could cause problems for you at check-in? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Anonymous |
RE: Fingerprint scans
Jun 11 2007, 3:54 PM EDT Some people do not have identifiable fingerprints, I being one. Many elderly people and construction workers have effectively worn off their prints. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Anonymous |
RE: Fingerprint scans
Jun 11 2007, 4:10 PM EDT On the one hand it catch wanted criminals. On the other hand if for some reason you are wrongfully entered in the system you could (probably would) be arrested and carted off to jail and miss your flight. We all know just how slow and crooked the wheels of justice turn. And ooops just would not suffice or erase all the drama and loss one would go through. And you know once it is in place it could be used by any agency at any time for any reason. And you can bet your bottom dollar once instituted it would be used for all travelers to all destinations. I'm less concerned about false positives than misuse of the system. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Anonymous |
RE: Fingerprint scans
Jun 11 2007, 4:38 PM EDT I am already a Clear Pass owner - and value the program where it is deployed. I travel frequently on business and have no problems with pre-identification up to and including a microchip under my skin. My computer already uses biometrics for logon - iris scans will work for those without "prints.", Anything that would deliver hassle-free flying once again. I am tired of being guilty until proven innocent. Suzanne Hoffman - United 1K and American Exec Platinum 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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rskunter rskunter |
RE: Fingerprint scans
Jun 11 2007, 4:38 PM EDT "The Department of Homeland Security reportedly wants travelers on international flights to undergo a fingerprint scan at check-in, perhaps starting next year. Do you have any objections to having a fingerprint scanned? Do you trust security officials to use a new database of traveler fingerprints wisely? Are you worried about potential “false positives” that could cause problems for you at check-in? "I do not trust DHS to use the information wisely or correctly. The potential for missuse by the US government or any other government in my opinion out weighs any possible benefit. It could readily become a part of internal controls on individual movements by air or other. The government will not have the fingerprints of unknown potential terroists in any event. So one must ask why are they doing it? Population control rather than any possible security would appear the most obvious. As George Washington said "Government is not reason; it's not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it's a dangerous servant and a fearful master." "National freedom is an illusion withut legally protected individual freedom, private property and personal privacy."- H. D. Schultz. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Anonymous |
RE: Fingerprint scans
Jun 11 2007, 4:50 PM EDT "The Department of Homeland Security reportedly wants travelers on international flights to undergo a fingerprint scan at check-in, perhaps starting next year. Do you have any objections to having a fingerprint scanned? Do you trust security officials to use a new database of traveler fingerprints wisely? Are you worried about potential “false positives” that could cause problems for you at check-in? "As an American, I think it's disgraceful. I wouldn't trust Homeland Security and the Bush administration to water my lawn. If I were an inbound traveller, it would force me to reconsider my travel to the U.S. The sad thing is we American citizens are next... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Anonymous |
RE: Fingerprint scans
Jun 11 2007, 5:04 PM EDT I don't want anything that will increase my wait. I am willing to be scanned once and then be given an ID card that's acceptable, like most Governent agencies, probably including DHS, do. Regarding a Government database of fingerprints I don't think it's difficult to implement, and the check should be done during check-in. After thhe first 200 false positives, the systems should be srapped and redone. Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: Fingerprint scans
Jun 11 2007, 5:07 PM EDT "I am already a Clear Pass owner - and value the program where it is deployed. I travel frequently on business and have no problems with pre-identification up to and including a microchip under my skin. My computer already uses biometrics for logon - iris scans will work for those without "prints.", Anything that would deliver hassle-free flying once again. I am tired of being guilty until proven innocent.Pass on the surgery, thank you. And by handing over your fingerprints, you are being treated as a criminal... Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: Fingerprint scans
Jun 11 2007, 5:12 PM EDT "The Department of Homeland Security reportedly wants travelers on international flights to undergo a fingerprint scan at check-in, perhaps starting next year. Do you have any objections to having a fingerprint scanned? Do you trust security officials to use a new database of traveler fingerprints wisely? Are you worried about potential “false positives” that could cause problems for you at check-in? "I was travelling through Toronto a few months ago and I was disgusted by D.H.S. management. There were a total of 3 agents managing inbound U.S. travellers. 2 agents were dedicated to handling Americans, 1 agent for all the rest. The line for Americans totaled 3 people, the Canadian line had at least 30 people waiting. No wonder they hate us. I was embarrassed that we went through so quickly. Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: Fingerprint scans
Jun 11 2007, 8:02 PM EDT Yes, I would strenuously object to giving my fingerprints for this purpose. Why should I believe that this information will not be applied as ineptly as the names on the no-fly list, nor "corrected" as ineffectively when misapplied? As the adage goes: garbage in, garbage out. More and more data is not the answer to our security concerns, it is the optimal processing and effective use of the information TSA already has access to. These are the same DHS agents who could not implement a clear alert to not allow the "TB man" into the country. We need more thought applied to assessing people and their data, not more data. Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: Fingerprint scans
Jun 11 2007, 11:50 PM EDT A very good idea, BUT it is only as good as the info that you have in the conputer and I do not see the terroists lining up to have there prints taken. Patrick Brangan. Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: Fingerprint scans
Jun 12 2007, 3:26 PM EDT This would be great IF and that is a big IF, the TSA would allow all of us with security clearances and multiple fingerprint histories for Airport badges, DOD Security clearances, Weapons Permits, and the list goes on... To skip all the TSA Screener BS with a valid fingerprint. They could save manpower screening 60-80 percent of the people catching flights this way. Common sense: Yes. Would DHS and TSA ever get here? No, too easy and reduces an empire. Do you find this valuable? |
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Anonymous |
RE: Fingerprint scans
Jun 14 2007, 4:38 PM EDT "The Department of Homeland Security reportedly wants travelers on international flights to undergo a fingerprint scan at check-in, perhaps starting next year. Do you have any objections to having a fingerprint scanned? Do you trust security officials to use a new database of traveler fingerprints wisely? Are you worried about potential “false positives” that could cause problems for you at check-in? "I absolutely object to another intrusion into my life. What next, DNA samples? Do you find this valuable? |