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Which merger partner would be best for Delta, Continental?
Jan 11 2008, 2:00 PM EST
Rumors are flying about a Delta merger again (see this week’s story), with either Northwest or United; and some speculate that Continental might unite with whichever one is left over. Our question: Would you rather see Delta-Northwest and Continental-United mergers, or Delta-United and Continental-Northwest – and why? Post your comments here. Do you find this valuable?    

Anonymous
RE: Which merger partner would be best for Delta, Continental?
Jan 15 2008, 10:04 AM EST
Consolidation needs to happen in the airline industry for sure, but why does a Delta-Northwest and Continental-United mergers, or Delta-United and Continental-Northwest make sense? So they can consolidate and re-paint 30+ year old airplanes? It should be for better routes, better employee pay, better consumer pricing, better customer service and airport/airways congestion relief, NOT for Wall Street or executive bonuses! Don't believe the hype. Do you find this valuable?    

Anonymous
RE: Which merger partner would be best for Delta, Continental?
Jan 17 2008, 2:24 PM EST
Continental /Northwest would be a much better fit. As a Platnium Skyteam Member these airline mileage programs and upgrade system or much more aligned than delta or united. Do you find this valuable?    

Anonymous
RE: Which merger partner would be best for Delta, Continental?
Jan 23 2008, 1:28 PM EST
This is coming from out in left field, but from an equipment standpoint as well as fewer anti-trust issues, a combination of Northwest and US Airways (America West in disguise) might make sense.
Admittedly, there's the problem of US Airways and America West not being totally combined yet. And the labor issues for what would, in effect, be a 3-carrier merger could be formidable. But stranger things have happened in the airline industry.
Northwest and US Airways are the only US passenger airlines flying the A330, both rely heavily on the A320 and the 757. and they serve many of the same cities, giving the merged company more utilization of its manpower in thinly served markets.
For a political standpoint...it's unlikely any hub would have to be dismantled and the sensitive issue of loss of competition because of route overlap would be relatively minimal.
The merger also could feed additional connecting traffic to Northwest on its West Coast flights to the Orient.
And let's add one more "what if"...how about working JetBlue into the US Airways-Northwest mix?!! JetBlue's A320s and E90s would fit in nicely with NWAUSA's equipment. That would make for a true transcontinenal carrier that connects New York, Boston and Washington DC with the California "biggies" of Los Angeles and San Francisco. And it would probably give Northwest a reason to return to JFK on the Tokyo route.
And while we're at it, how about adding Spirit and its shiny new Airbuses...
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Anonymous
RE: Which merger partner would be best for Delta, Continental?
Feb 8 2008, 6:46 PM EST
This depends on what basis the merger is being conducted. For similar aircraft, Delta and Continental have all Boeing aircraft so from a support standpoint, although it is not being considered anymore, those two fit together best while both Northwest and United try to fly Airbus and Boeing aircraft. From a route standpoint however, this is a terrible combination since Delta and Continental highly overlap as do United and Northwest. This leaves us with the two options as presented now by jimglab. Three of these airlines are Skyteam (all but United) while United is the Star Alliance. So one of the Skyteam partners will leave the fold unless United joins Skyteam which is highly unlikely.

What we will likely see is a Delta-Northwest merger and although the Northwest CEO does not want to lose his job, he will not be able to oppose the board and stop this merger from happening. We will then have a massive Delta Air LInes with hubs in Atlanta (Memphis which is close by and tiny under Northwest will be closed), Detroit (Delta's smaller Cinnattti hub will also close), Minneapolis/St.Paul, Tokyo, JFK, and a few other regional hubs like Las Angeles (LAX), Orlando, and La Guardia. This is my best guess based on my understanding of the two airlines.

For United-Continental, Contiental's CEO is against merging but admits they will be forced to merge if Delta acts. In this case, United will probably take over the smaller Continental desipte the fact the better airline operatonally (Contintenal) will be take over. All of United's Hubs (LAX, San Francisco, Denver, Dulles) do not cross with Continental's hubs (Guam, Houston, Newark, Cleveland) so probably no hubs will close in this merger. Ideally, Continental's management which is regarded as better will take over but that will depend on the negotiations and since United is bigger, is probably unlkely.

In either case, aircraft types will cause problems in these mergers as stated above.
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Anonymous
RE: Which merger partner would be best for Delta, Continental?
Feb 14 2008, 11:34 PM EST
I prefer United and Continental merger. Continental has no flight to China. Therefore, the merger will make more sense for these 2 airlines. United has a bad reputation of ground service. On the other hand, Continental services are superior than United. I hope Continental will bring the customer service to United airline crew. Do you find this valuable?    

Anonymous
RE: Which merger partner would be best for Delta, Continental?
Feb 15 2008, 10:59 AM EST
"What we will likely see is a Delta-Northwest merger and although the Northwest CEO does not want to lose his job, he will not be able to oppose the board and stop this merger from happening. We will then have a massive Delta Air LInes with hubs in Atlanta (Memphis which is close by and tiny under Northwest will be closed), Detroit (Delta's smaller Cincinnatti hub will also close), Minneapolis/St.Paul, Tokyo, JFK, and a few other regional hubs like Las Angeles (LAX), Orlando, and La Guardia. This is my best guess based on my understanding of the two airlines.

For United-Continental, Contiental's CEO is against merging but admits they will be forced to merge if Delta acts. In this case, United will probably take over the smaller Continental desipte the fact the better airline operatonally (Contintenal) will be take over. All of United's Hubs (LAX, San Francisco, Denver, Dulles) do not cross with Continental's hubs (Guam, Houston, Newark, Cleveland) so probably no hubs will close in this merger. Ideally, Continental's management which is regarded as better will take over but that will depend on the negotiations and since United is bigger, is probably unlkely."
Made a mistake, actually, if United and Continental were to merge, Cleveland would close as a hub since it is too close to Chicago and Chicago is a better hub (size wise) than Cleveland. According to reports, it appears that Continentals's CEO would remain CEO and United's CEO would be Chairman of the Board. That scares me as the United CEO has a mess for an airline but I guess he has to have some role. I do not want to see a disaster in Continental's service out of this in any case.
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Anonymous
RE: Which merger partner would be best for Delta, Continental?
Feb 28 2008, 11:20 AM EST
Yes, Continental does fly to china, PEK from EWR everyday. Do you find this valuable?    
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